After trying them, they are now my office set, I wouldn't even bother using them for cardio unless you have/find good foam earbud tips or silicone wingtips, which they discontinued providing by default and apparently are impossible to find. I bought this based on earlier recommendations on RFD boasting near perfection and all use scenarios. IMO this is a very person to person YMMV factor right here. Their customer service has been great so I would recommend you to try them out and see if it fits well for you. It is really hard to tell unless you try them. I use it when I work out and have been staying in my ears very well.
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